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PHOENIX -- In the past, some police agencies urged people to run and hide from violent situations, such as the tragedies in Aurora, Colo. and Newtown, Conn., until police arrived. That line of thinking may be changing.

Some agencies are advising school leaders and even students to physically confront the attackers as a last resort, but a retired Phoenix police officer said that may not be the best bet for everyone.

"There are people who are not trained, who won't get involved and know they can't do anything and they're better off getting away and getting other people away to safety by running," said former Phoenix Police Sgt. Andy Hill.

Hill agreed with other experts that fighting back remains a last resort. He said attacking the attacker could prevent extra tragedy but you must know exactly what you're capable of doing.

"Since 9/11 we've had more people willing to confront attackers and that's the key."

Hill referred to passengers on United 93 who took on the terrorists aboard the aircraft before it crashed in Pennsylvania and likely saved many lives at the U.S. Capitol.

Hill made it clear: Once someone commits to fighting or dying in trying to stop a violent situation, there's no turning back.

"You go as hard as you can for as long as you can and don't give up. That's your best chance of surviving."

The Police Executive Research Forum recently told USA Today there are times when you must fight or die because sitting on the sidelines could cost lives.

Former DPS Officer Andy Swann works closely with the Arizona Attorney General's Office on law enforcement matters and said each scenario is different.

"If somebody can't do it. They're not willing to do it. An emergency situation is not the time to be thinking maybe I'll give it a try."

Swann said there will be cases where confronting an attacker will just add one more victim: the would-be hero.

"There are also cases where fighting back is a much better option than standing back and taking bullets."

Swann said he is not encouraging going after someone with a gun. That's a judgment call.

"If your only choices are fighting or dying, I think fighting is the best option. That's just me."

Jim Cross, Reporter

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    Michoacan wrote...
    61 year old granny, Patricia Maisch, stepped in
    unarmed and screwed up Jared Loughner's next reload. Running and hiding has its merits too.
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    wrote...
    Every situation is different...
    ...but if you have the opportunity to end a criminals career and stop the chain of future victims then it is well worth considering. If someone is crazy enough to enter your house against your wishes then they are probably crazy enough to do anythingto you. The police will only get there in time to clean up the mess so make sure you're alive to tell the tale, not the perp. Don't allow yourself to be a victim.
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    2cents wrote...
    Swann is right
    Owning a gun in no way imparts police-and-military-level tactical skills. Nor does it authorize the owner to do anything different than before in avoiding and stepping away from conflict, if that works. Gun ownership does not make a ninja warrior, and those who get proper training are responsible gun owners.
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    Anti-deceptor wrote...
    Micho no merit
    Good guys with guns are the best solutions for bad guys with guns.
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    Michoacan wrote...
    Better solution: Good guys with guns
    demanding background checks of potentially bad guys seeking to buy their guns in private and gun show sales. Otherwise, the good guys selling the bad guys guns are a big part of the problem and may have to face the consequences of their inaction.
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    ZingerRinger wrote...
    Take a stand
    The liberal left wants us all to cower in the corner and become another victim. They would rather protect the criminals and their rights than the law abiding citizen. Also, you do not need "Tactical Training" to line up up the sights, pull the trigger and take out a criminal. You just need to have some bullets! "ALL EVIL NEEDS TO PROSPER IS FOR GOOD MEN TO DO NOTHING" - Thomas Jefferson
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    ZingerRinger wrote...
    Joe Biden is an idiot!!!
    Biden said you should take your 12 gauge, double barrell shotgun onto your porch and fire off both rounds into the air if an intruder breaks into your house. Joe Biden is a complete idiot! Now the gun is empty and the bad guy is going to get you while you reload! The simple solution is to shoot the intruder! If enough bad guys get shot doing home invasions, the number of home invasions would go DOWN! Either all the bad guys eventually get shot, or they quit doing home invasions because they FEAR being shot! PROBLEM SOLVED
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    Anti-deceptor wrote...
    Poor Micho
    Always in a deluded state of derision and off topic. The trend is now encouraging people to fight back - and to use the same tools that criminals are using - to defend themselves. People have an inherent right to protect themselves - and should be prepared and willing to do so.
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    Anti-deceptor wrote...
    Micho lies again
    http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2011/01/09/20110109gabrielle-giffords-arizona-shooting-morning.html - Patricia Maisch did NOT "step in" and do anything. She fell to the ground and played dead when the shooting began. When two men tackled Loughner as he attempted to reload, they took him to the ground. He dropped the magazine in his hand and she picked it up. In the moment that happened, she admitted she had made the wrong decision (to play dead) because Loughner was shooting people on the ground. Micho misrepresents.
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    yrreta wrote...
    Micho often
    twists the facts and words to fit her delusion of the moment. Like gas, it always passes. Jelly doughnut Micho?

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