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FILE - In this Dec. 31, 2012 file photo, Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla. gets into an elevator on Capitol Hill in Washington. Gun control senators are discussing revising the defeated background check bill in attempt to revive it. (AP Photo/Susan Walsh)

WASHINGTON (AP) - The Senate rejected an effort Wednesday to expand the use of firearms on some of the nation's most frequently visited federal lands, handing gun control advocates a modest success.

The measure, backed by the National Rifle Association, represented one of two efforts Wednesday by gun rights supporters to take the offensive in Congress. Across the Capitol, a Republican-run House committee voted to make it easier for some veterans with mental difficulties to get firearms.

The rejected Senate proposal would have let people use guns for any legal purpose on lands managed by the Army Corps of Engineers, which oversees nearly 12 million acres that abound in lakes, rivers, campsites and hiking trails. Currently, guns on those properties are limited to activities like target-range shooting and hunting, and weapons must be unloaded while being carried to those activities.

Senators voted 56-43 for the proposal by Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., but it fell short of the 60 votes needed for passage.

Eleven Democrats and one Democratic-leaning independent voted for Coburn's plan, underscoring the party's divisions on the gun issue.

Those voting for Coburn's proposal included all four Democrats who opposed the bipartisan bill expanding required federal background checks to more gun buyers that the Senate rejected three weeks ago.

The background check expansion has been the pillar of President Barack Obama's effort to restrict guns following December's elementary school massacre in Newtown, Conn. Top Democrats and other supporters hope to win fresh support and stage a new vote on background checks, perhaps next month. Advocates hope that voting for Coburn's proposal might let some senators show voters they support gun rights and give them more leeway to reverse themselves and vote for background checks next time.

Also backing Coburn's proposal were the two chief authors of the defeated background check measure, Sens. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., and Patrick Toomey, R-Pa.

Sen. Mark Kirk of Illinois, a supporter of the Manchin-Toomey plan, was the only Republican to vote against expanding gun use on Corps land.

Coburn said gun rights on Corps land should be the same as in national parks and federal wildlife refuges, where federal law has allowed visitors to carry guns since 2010. He said after the vote that he would keep reintroducing the measure until it passes.

"Fifty-six votes, a majority of the Senate believes we ought to have one sane policy" on gun rights on federal lands, Coburn said.

Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., said allowing more guns onto Corps property would increase danger to the dams, flood control systems and other crucial water projects.

"This critical infrastructure is a target for terrorists," she said. Allowing more guns "sets up a national security threat. It endangers people."

Army Corps lands are used for recreation by 370 million people annually, more than visit the property of any other federal agency. About 80 percent of them are within 50 miles of urban areas, making them accessible destinations.

Also Wednesday, the House Veterans Affairs Committee voted by voice to require a judge or magistrate to declare a veteran is dangerous before the person's name is entered in the background check system's database of people barred from getting firearms.

Currently, the Veterans Affairs Department sends the system the names of veterans it has declared unable to manage their financial affairs- 127,000 names since 1998.

Supporters of the measure said veterans who can't handle their money aren't necessarily dangerous.

"It's arbitrary. It's inconsistent and it's unreasonable," Rep. Jeff Miller, R-Fla., chairman of the committee, said of the current process.

The Veterans department opposes the measure, saying veterans in the database already have the ability to appeal.

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Associated Press writer Kevin Freking contributed to this report.


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    Michoacan wrote...
    Giffords will tell the committee that
    Wayne LaPierre's claim that, “The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun," is utter nonsense. She will note that the bad guy who shot her and killed and injured others was stopped by a good guy (gal) without a gun, a 61 year old granny in fact. She will say that the NRA's game is to distract from the real issue which is how do we as a society keep the bad guys from getting the guns in the first place. Gun nuts and the NRA, who profit from selling guns to bad guys, will say that it can't be done. Reasonable will see that it can be done.
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    Patriot wrote...
    Brain dead Liberals
    will continue to call on laws that have proven to fail time and time again and don't engage in discussions over the real issues. They will demonize groups like the NRA and Americans who exercise their 2nd amendment rights. Brain dead Liberals don't demand the goverment enforce gun laws already on the books, instead they call on more laws that won't do anything to stop gun violence.
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    Steve wrote...
    Well said Patriot
    I like your use of the term "brain dead liberals". I often use that to descibe the very people who are as you say demonizing americans while trying to push failed agendas. The intitiatives will fail in Washington because both the Democrats and Republicans don't want to screw with the 2nd amendment.
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    Steve wrote...
    Not all Liberals are brain dead
    on this issue. Perhaps Harry Reid isn't quite as dumb as he looks or acts. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid on Tuesday declined to voice support for Democratic legislation that would ban assault weapons and high capacity ammunition clips. Reid said he would bring gun violence legislation to the floor and open it to a lengthy amendment process. But he declined to endorse the assault weapons ban introduced last week by Sen. Dianne Feinstein.
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    Steve wrote...
    Criminals don't care about laws
    Gun Control kooks are terrified of the average Mom and Dad, the average brother or sister possessing the means to defend themselves and those around them. They don't seem at all worried about armed members of gangs. Criminals including gangs are already engaging in criminal activity meaning, they have no problem breaking the Law. Breaking the Law is their way of life. Self restraint mean nothing to them. Consequences mean almost nothing to them.
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    nokidding wrote...
    You can look at it this way...
    If there were one conceald carry citizen in the crowed in Tucson there wouldn't be 6 dead, there would only be 2 dead and one would be Jarod.
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    Michoacan wrote...
    Gun nuts and the NRA fight
    efforts to conduct research into gun violence. They also fight efforts to investigate illegal gun sales. This is true. They make a strong point that new lanes will not work because the forces of gun love and gun profiteering will do everything possible to undercut new and existing laws.
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    6thCavAirCav wrote...
    Hello??? Will everybody Shut Up
    You are being lead down a path of misdirection. The government is throwing up Gun Control and Immigration to make you forget that the GDP last quarter was next to nothing. That Barry just gave a country who has never been a friend, 155 million dollars and the Unemployment is still at 7.5%. You let these liberal cry about gun control all you want. If a “Gun Nut” had been in the audience when the wack job pulled his gun and start shooting in Tucson the gun nut would have dropped him after the first two shots were fired. How come it always Democrats that get shot or assonated?
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    Michoacan wrote...
    Name Ronald Reagan ring a bell?
    BTW, he supported the Brady Bill and Assault Weapons Ban.
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    wrote...
    Go home.....
    There is a big picture and it would be my hope they (Dems and Reps) would come together to help NOT hinder my second amendment rights.

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